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Sunday, August 30, 2015

Don't let us stop you!

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COMMENTS: 
*  Let them. I would like to see what their tax rate is going to be if they are no longer gettingt get any help from the US government. Also, a lot of companies, especially the defense industry, are going to move away if Texas is no longer part of the US. The GOP would absolutely never win another national election if Texas and its electoral votes are gone.
*  Is there some way for us non-Texans to support this campaign -- maybe make donations or whatever?  Sounds like an opportunity much too good to pass up, if there's any chance at all of it succeeding.
*  I have to wonder how many people making negative comments about Texas and the people have ever lived here or even been here. Having moved to Texas from the North East I have to say for the most part the people are hard working, open and accepting. If you leave the attitude at the state line and have the required two assault rifles for residency you are welcomed with open arms. That and in my part of the state I only have to see snow every 5-7 years. Neither the secessionists nor the ultra conservative image really reflect Texas or the good people here.
*  This is great news for a few reasons: As an independent country Texas would no longer enjoy the support of the US taxpayers; Rick Perry and Ted Cruz would in no way be eligible to run for the U.S. presidency, the US would not have to defend Texas when Mexico decides to invade to reclaim land stolen from them 150 years ago, and finally, Donald Trump could focus his efforts on building a fence around Texas to keep the Texans from entering the United States. Seems to me like a win/win all around for everyone.
*  I lived in the Dallas-Fort Worth area for a little over four and a half years and I never heard one person say they wanted to secede.
*  I'm a native Texan and I love my state, but the politics and the religious overtones to the politics are really driving me up the wall. I keep hoping that sanity will come to Texas but it seems unlikely at this point. Texas won't secede - most Texans love our country, but this idea gives the nut cases something to occupy their time. I hope they get their 75,000 signatures, so primary voters can show them how little support these people really have.
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Texas secessionists launch petition drive for vote to break away
By Jim Forsyth, August 30, 2015

A group called the Texas Nationalist Movement fanned out to 31 cities across Texas this weekend trying to gather the 75,000 signatures they say they need to get the question of the state's secession from the United States on the primary ballot next spring.

Texas is one of only two U.S. states, the other being Hawaii, that were once internationally recognized sovereign nations, with diplomatic ties to other countries. Although legal experts said it would be unconstitutional for Texas to break away via a primary vote, there is still a spirit of Texas independence among many in the Lone Star State.

"What we are seeing, over and over, is this complete disconnect between the people of Texas, what they want, and what is going on in Washington, D.C.," TNM President Daniel Miller told Reuters.

"The people of Texas don't have anything against the United States, they are just tired of being governed by bureaucrats we didn't elect pushing programs we don't want."

He compared Texas to Scotland, which narrowly defeated a proposal to secede from the United Kingdom last year, and Catalonia, which is pushing to hold a vote on independence from Spain this year.

"We are living in the era of the right of political self-determination," Miller said.

But there is one rather big problem, according to T. Gerald Treece, a professor at South Texas College of Law in Houston and an expert on Constitutional Law.

"That problem is the Civil War," Treece said.  "When Texas and the other Southern states were re-admitted, each of them made a solemn promise that they would never leave the Union again."

Treece said there are some legislative options available to the Texas Nationalist Movement, short of another civil war.

"You have to have the Texas Legislature initiate a request, and then you have to have the U.S. Congress approve it, and then it could happen," he said, adding that with 'two sovereigns involved,' both would have to give their assent.

Many states have discussed leaving the Union over the last century, but the talk has been louder in Texas, with some Republicans, including former Governor Rick Perry, floating the idea of secession.

Texas would certainly have the clout to become influential on the world stage as an independent nation, with a $1.4 trillion-a year-economy, about the same size as South Korea's.
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