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Thursday, June 11, 2015

"... Ryan isn’t even up to speed on basic facts. Or maybe he is fluent on the details, but Ryan believes he can fool the public."

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COMMENTS: 
*  The republican alternative plan to the ACA?  Keep telling lies about "Obamacare!" and hope people fall for it.
*  Also according to your poll result at 63% of America want Obamacare to be left alone and given a chance to see if it ultimately succeeds, It would be great if SCOTUS were to honor the will of the majority who hey are sworn to protect by oath.
*  Paul Ryan was talking to his "believe anything" GOP base voters.
*  Well Paul, with your idiotic sissy fit over the PPACA and how it will be Obama's fault if 6.5 million folks loose their healthcare, I would assume your about ready to throw your "I wish I could be President" hat into the ring! Well, come on in the water is fine!
*  Ryan has several major lies to his "credit".  In EVERY budget plan / idea he has put forth, the deficit is increased though he claims the opposite.  He falsifies arithmetic and mangles mathematics (some wonk).  Maybe he's hoping to decrease U.S. population, because his policies would deprive people (especially seniors and the chronically ill) of health care.  It's expensive to keep people alive.
*  Paul Ryan ineffective con man, he is as thick as a brick.
*   I really think he believes what he says. He and his fellow TP/GOPers have repeated this BS so many times it's actually a reality in their minds, wrong as they are.
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Paul Ryan flunks Health Care 101
By Steve Benen, June 11, 2015

House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) this week launched a little tirade against the Affordable Care Act, which stood out for its tenuous relationship with reality. “Whatever the Supreme Court decides this month, I think the lesson is clear. Obamacare is busted,” the far-right congressman said. “It just doesn’t work.”

And Ryan is entirely correct, just so long as one overlooks literally all of the evidence. The assertion that the law “doesn’t work” is contradicted by just about every possible metric, showing the ACA not only working effectively, but exceeding the expectations of even the most optimistic proponents.

GOP lawmakers have gone from making a series of spectacularly wrong predictions to simply buying their heads in the sand, pretending real-world results don’t exist. It’s almost sad to watch.

But Ryan kept going. The L.A. Times’ Michael Hiltzik flagged this gem yesterday, noting the Wisconsinite’s take on the King v. Burwell case pending at the Supreme Court.
An adverse Court ruling could strip an estimated 6.5 million people of subsidies worth some $21 billion a year, forcing many of them to give up insurance they acquired thanks to Obamacare. Ryan seemed to think that would be a good thing, or at least that providing subsidies so people can have coverage is a bad thing. The federal government, he said, “has sent millions of subsidies out the door, putting millions of people at risk.”

Interesting outlook: he’s saying that helping people puts them at risk, and a lawsuit backed by the Republican establishment that would strip away that assistance will be good for them.
In Ryan’s mind, a law that provides health security to families necessarily puts those families in peril.

It’s a genuinely bizarre worldview – “Obamacare” puts consumers “at risk.” At risk of what? Of getting screwed over by a Republican political war that treats consumers like collateral damage.

Making matters slightly worse, Sahil Kapur flagged this Bloomberg Politics report, which reinforced fears that Paul Ryan simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Republicans, who have led the charge to repeal the Affordable Care Act, will act to support people who would lose subsidies under a ruling against the Obama administration, Representative Paul Ryan said.

“We will have a Republican alternative to deal with this, so that people who are caught in the crossfire of this unconstitutional law – should the court determine that it’s unconstitutional – have a way to go,” Ryan, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said in an interview.

Ryan provided no details of the legislation.
The failed V.P. candidate apparently doesn’t know this, but King v. Burwell isn’t a challenge to the law’s constitutionality. In fact, that case was resolved several years ago, and Ryan’s side lost. King v. Burwell is a question of statutory interpretation – how to interpret five stray words out of context – not the constitutionality of the law.

How could Ryan, ostensibly one of his party’s leading figures on health care policy, not know this? And if he does know this, why is he saying the opposite?

There are all kinds of political and ideological questions in the health care debate, and there’s ample room for opinions. But Ryan isn’t even up to speed on basic facts.

Or maybe he is fluent on the details, but Ryan believes he can fool the public. Jonathan Bernstein argued a few months ago that the Ways & Means chairman “thinks we’re fools.” Bernstein added, “Just how stupid does Paul Ryan think we are?”

If his health care arguments this week are any indication, Ryan may think we’ll fall for anything.

I get the sense that much of the Beltway has already provided the far-right congressman with his “Officially Recognized Wonk” membership card, and evidence won’t shake the impression that Ryan cares deeply about substance and policy details.

But for those who care to notice, the frequency with which Paul Ryan makes absurd claims should cast doubt over his credibility.
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