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Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Do these GOP "clowns" really think that what they say won't be fact-checked? Sheesh!

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COMMENTS: 
*  With the latest 2016 GOP Circus event last night, there certainly were quite a number of whoppers spewed by the republican clowns. Sorry benny carson, but China does not have troops in Syria. Sorry tRump, but China is not part of the TPP, no matter what you say!
*   "Dr. Carson refuted their lies."  No he did not......he just stated he would not address any of the corporate media's vetting that every candidate for president goes through. The pathological liar is done, especially since the majority of Americans do not want a religious zealot in the WH.
*  Republican candidates painted a fairly bleak picture of the U.S. economy:  "For the first time in 35 years, we have more businesses dying than starting," Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said.  "We have to recognize that small business — right now more of them are closing than are being set up," Bush said.  The NPR Fact Checkers disagreed with both of these GOP Clowns: "That certainly was true in the early years of the Obama administration, which coincided with the Great Recession. But according to the latest figures from the Census Bureau, in 2012 and 2013 more businesses opened their doors than closed."
*  GOP voters don't mind if the candidates make up every statistic they throw out during the debates. Regressives don't believe in facts, they think that facts have a "liberal bias."
*  WOW...politicians lying about the facts. What else is new?
*  Facts and reality are the enemy to the cool aid drinkers on the right, just sticking an R in front of a steaming pile of #$%$ is enough for the low information voters on the right. Talk radio and faux will just say the "liberal media " is out to get them for calling them out on their lies.
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Fact Checkers Working Overtime: Top Whoppers from the GOP Debate
By Rob Garver, November 11, 2015

For a policy reporter -- or an engaged citizen with a reasonably sensitive BS detector -- watching presidential debates can be strenuous mental exercise. Falsehoods, exaggerations and arguments so flawed that, as one of Marco Rubio’s philosophy majors might put it, they are “not even wrong,” fly by so quickly that if you react to them all, it’s like trying to watch the debate in a house with a malfunctioning fire alarm.

For example, if you hear Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul complaining about the how the Federal Reserve’s post-recession policy has “destroyed” the value of the U.S. dollar and stop to do a quick Google search revealing that, wait a minute, that’s just objectively untrue, you lose precious moments.

By the time you turn your focus back to the debate, you don’t know what you’ve missed, and then suddenly there’s Jeb Bush, claiming that the banking industry’s capital requirements have fallen because of the Dodd-Frank Act. Back to Google to discover that, no, in fact they’ve done exactly the opposite.

At that point, though, they’ve moved on to stories about Vladimir Putin being in one place when he was actually on a different continent, and untruths about the relative incomes of welders and philosophy majors.

No sane person could keep this up for more than two hours without plunging into existential despair, so most of us just make mental notes to go back and check on some of the more egregious whoppers later.

However, some go further than others, and the morning after the fourth GOP debate produced a solid crop of strong fact-checks from various sources. Here are five of the best.

* After a night when federal financial regulators came under more intense fire than usual, Mike Konczal at the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute identified six problems the GOP candidates had in their arguments about financial services reform. In addition to Bush’s struggle with the realities of bank capital, he identifies mistakes about the source of the financial crisis, the actual role of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and more.

* Over at The Washington Post, Glenn Kessler and Michelle Ye Hee Lee ding Rubio for the welders claim, hit Carson for claims about the minimum wage and unemployment levels, and much, much more.

* The fact-checking shop at Politifact, unsurprisingly, was working overtime Tuesday night and into Wednesday morning, identifying truth-shading on various topics and a few outright whoppers, including statements about U.S. trade with China and the Syrian refugee crisis.

* The Associated Press produced a curated list of fibs, exaggerations and weirdness, including several misleading claims about the economy from Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush, an outright falsehood about Obamacare from former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, and Ben Carson’s inexplicable claim that the Chinese have troops in Syria.

* And of course, as in any modern debate, there was the real-time fact-checking that goes on via social media. Over at Forbes, Corinne Jurney gathered a sampling of face-palms, snark, and outrage.

Cheer up everyone, the election is only a year away.
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