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Saturday, January 15, 2011

Another Michelle Malkin partisan falsehood

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Did the White House "brand" memorial service with logo and slogan?
By Robert Farley
Published on Friday, January 14th, 2011 at 11:11 a.m.

The University of Arizona memorial service for the victims of the Tucson, Ariz. shootings was called "Together We Thrive." But Michelle Malkin claimed the slogan was cooked up by the White House

In an opinion piece about the Jan. 12, 2011, memorial event, Malkin, a conservative pundit, accused the White House of "branding" the memorial service with the slogan, complete with its own logo.

Malkin noted that all 13,000 people who attended the "Together We Thrive" event were given blue and white T-shirts with the logo.

"Can't the Democrat political stage managers give it a break just once?" Malkin wrote in her column.

But officials at the University of Arizona say it was all their idea. Malkin later ran an update to her column, noting the university's claims, but she maintained that the odds of White House involvement were high. Without evidence to back up the claim the White House used the shooting tragedy as an opportunity to orchestrate a "branded" political event, we rated Malkin's claim False.

Friday, January 14, 2011

A New Civility?

It seems there is a new civility on The Olympian threads. 

Disagreements, yes, but not intentional inflammatory rhetoric. 

You can actually follow a cohesive argument between people and there's no attacks on sexual orientation, religious beliefs and no faux patriotism being flung around.

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Compare

What is the difference between an Sarah Palin and a Pit Bull?

The Pit Bull will eventually quit whining.

Steele withdraws

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Steele bows out as RNC chairman


Update at 3:54 p.m. ET:
Incumbent RNC Chairman Michael Steele has dropped out of the running for a second term after the fourth round of balloting, he just announced.

He noted the party is clearly ready for a new direction and threw his support behind Maria Cino, a longtime GOP operative.

Thursday, January 13, 2011

First they were for it but then they were against it redux

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Talk about flip-flopping!
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Health insurance mandate would lessen government's role
RAHUL RAJKUMAR AND HAROLD POLLACK

The individual mandate provision of the 2010 health care reform law is winding its way through the courts, and will probably be decided by the Supreme Court.

It’s the place of judges to decide the constitutional issues. However, as a physician and a public health researcher, respectively, we believe that striking down the mandate would threaten the future of private health insurance coverage.

Many Republicans – Mitt Romney, Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the Heritage Foundation and many others – have favored such a mandate since the first Clinton administration. Yet as Democrats included this provision in their proposed national health care reforms, many of these same Republicans suddenly began to argue that the mandate was an affront to personal liberty.


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Obama takes opportunity Palin missed

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Obama takes opportunity Palin missed
Jonathan Martin (Politico)   – Thu Jan 13, 4:27 am ET

In the span of a single news cycle, Republicans got a jarring reminder of two forces that could prevent them from retaking the presidency in next year.

At sunrise in the East on Wednesday, Sarah Palin demonstrated that she has little interest — or capacity — in moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics. And at sundown in the West, Barack Obama reminded even his critics of his ability to rally disparate Americans around a message of reconciliation.

Palin was defiant, making the case in a taped speech she posted online why the nation’s heated political debate should continue unabated even after Saturday’s tragedy in Tucson. And, seeming to follow her own advice, she swung back at her opponents, deeming the inflammatory notion that she was in any way responsible for the shootings a “blood libel.”

Obama, speaking at a memorial service at the University of Arizona, summoned the country to honor the victims, and especially 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green, by treating one another with more respect. “I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it,” he said.

It’s difficult to imagine a starker contrast.

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But for much of the eight-minute talk she was defensive and showed little interest in doing anything other than channeling the understandable resentment of her ideological kinsmen over the blame-casting. And that won’t appeal much to a political center that — even while they may not think Palin is in any way responsible for Tucson — preferred more conciliation even before the jarring attempted assassination of a member of Congress.

Even on the right, her talk was seen as a missed opportunity.

“The strongest way to rise above would have been to talk about suffering, tragedy, hope, strength and recovery,” said former Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer. “Instead, she followed the more conventional political route and made it about herself rather than the victims.”

At a moment when even the famously combative Fox News chief Roger Ailes was saying take it down a notch, his most famous contract employee did just the opposite.

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Further, Palin’s pushback served to reinforce the message behind Obama’s speech, providing the president with an opportunity to transcend both the immediate finger-pointing on the left at Palin and other conservatives and her angry denunciation and counterattack.

What attracted so many centrist voters to then-candidate Obama in 2008 wasn’t any of his policy prescriptions but rather his pledge to change the conversation in Washington. He hasn’t done it yet and has, at times, not lived up to his own stated desire to bring down the temperature. But his fundamental political worldview is that most Americans prefer conciliation over confrontation.

And, speaking to a capacity basketball arena filled with leaders of both parties and those touched by the tragedy, he appealed to that spirit.

“Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together,” implored the president.

The speech was a vivid example of the promise of Obama and a reminder of why, even after so many missteps, he remains a formidable figure.

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What few Republicans wanted to say for attribution — but what was manifestly clear — was that Palin had made Obama look even bigger than he was.

Her argument for conflict-oriented politics lent itself as the near-ideal foil for his plea for civility. It was a clear contrast and, for Republicans, a dispiriting one.

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The final straw?

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Jack Cafferty, CNN, asked, "Did Sarah Palin's reaction to the Tucson massacre effectively end her chances of ever being elected president?"

Sarah Palin may have done herself in.

The tragedy in Tucson, Arizona, presented an opportunity for Palin to reach beyond her base and strike a note of unity. It was her chance to say something that showed she was capable of true leadership.

You see, before Palin opened her mouth, there was a good deal of sympathy for her. Many believed it was wrong to drag her into the debate.

But then she spoke. And it was just awful. Defiant and inflammatory, Palin invoked the historically painful term "blood libel" in attacking the media. This is a phrase used to describe anti-Semitic myths about how Jews killed children to use their blood in rituals.

NBC news correspondent Andrea Mitchell suggested the use of the phrase "blood libel" was "ignorant." Which it was. A CBS analysis suggested Palin played "the victim card." Which she did. And ABC said Palin "once again, has found a way to become part of the story." True.

It is being suggested that the scope of the Tucson situation is simply beyond Palin's limited skill set. And when you compare Palin's response to the uplifting speech we heard from our president last night, well, you can draw your own conclusions.

President Obama still has work to do when it comes to delivering on his campaign promises to change Washington and elevate the national discourse but last night went a long way in reminding many Americans why they voted for him.

And comparing the president's lofty words to Palin's small ones must have many Republicans rethinking their support of a woman who has great difficulty getting beyond her image of some sort of rogue momma grizzly bear.
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Jack said he received thousands of comments on his question of the hour, and overwhelmingly the responders said Palin is, in essence, "done for".  In the words of one commenter, "I find it appalling that she was playing the victim role when a memorial to the true victims of Saturday's shooting was to take place in a few hours." Another response: "Palin's speech showed us that it's all about her. She didn't even mention any of the victims. Her disingenuous reaction to this tragedy proves she doesn't have what it takes to ever be president."
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Minimum wage

An excellent letter to the editor of The Olympian brought many fine comments.  This one caught my eye:

Mr Saltsman is writing on behalf of the Economic Policy Institute, which is a group that's paid to lobby for industries. Their major clients are in the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries.Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/01/12/1503158/minimum-wage-increase-prices-teens.html#disqus_thread#ixzz1Ax2fmwmF 
(click link for full comment and story)
 
eieio hit it.  Minimum wage discussions are more a product of industries that can't hire teens.  Teens can't sell alcohol in restaurants, so you'll find venues that serve alcohol don't hire teens other than a dishwasher.  Hotels have issues with alcohol service (room service) as well as bonding to enter rooms that could have customer valuables in them.  C-stores don't hire under 21 because they sell booze and tobacco.
 
The letter was just a lobbyist taking advantage of a free advertising medium to try to sell his case.

McClatchy Policy Changes

Some of you have taken note of policy changes in The Olympian and The News Tribune concerning "use of material".

In the spirit of good community and being professional (when do we get paid?????) I reached out to McClatchy for clarification.

In short, here is the policy:

Anything you might copy and paste from either newspaper is legit, as long as it's accompanied by a link for credit.  Where written permission is required is for complete reproduction of a story.  Thus I'm suggesting that if a contributor wants to discuss or critique a story, reproduced the first paragraph or so, then accompany that with a link to the full story in the media of choice (we should really treat all media the same).

You need not agree with the story or comment you've selected.  Officially, our policy of being an adult membership blog stays the same, thus I'm not going to fret over someone using a word that might not be suitable for a general readership product, but I am going to ask that we restrain ourselves a bit.  This whole "inflammatory rhetoric" stuff can go both ways and, frankly, I want to rise above the level of manure that I see from....well.....the other guys.  This is sharing readership and I've seen a nice rise in our readership level since sharing with Olyblog.  No one loses when everyone plays fair.

Thanks for participating and enjoying ThurstonBlog.  I've noticed a nice exchange of readers developing with a couple of other local blogs - Olyblog in particular.  Some of our "over the top" humor won't appeal to everyone, but that's OK.  We keep it on our blog and we own it.  My first return to Olyblog, after two years or so, ended up with me asking Thad to close the thread because it was turning into radec's opportunity to bitch at me (and Anon The Great) and avoid the "out of the closet" that we require for membership.  I wanted to honor Olyblog's format and I know that flame throwing is a sensitive issue to them, so I took the high road.  You'll notice radec hasn't blogged on Olyblog since.  People like that have nothing to contribute.  They just want attention and to stir the pot.

My differences with The Olympian are more legendary than I'd like them to be.  Unfortunately, things happened.  I keep my own backyard clean, therefore if I don't blog in The Olympian, I cannot be responsible for any problems they have with others that try to drag me or ThurstonBlog into their little whine making.  There is an email address on ThurstonBlog and all of their complaints should be sent there.  Otherwise, they are just violating The Olympians TOS to get attention.  That is not my business.

OK.....enough.  I just wanted everyone to know the rules of the road really haven't changed.  Let's be us and have some fun, contribute to our community and maybe we can learn from others in the meanwhile.

Order yours today!!!

Wednesday, January 12, 2011

Baburu!!!


The Tucson Memorial

Excerpt from President Obama's Tucson speech:

"I believe we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved lives here - they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.

"That's what I believe, in part because that's what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. Imagine: here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that someday she too might play a part in shaping her nation's future. She had been elected to her student council; she saw public service as something exciting, something hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.

"I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it. All of us - we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children's expectations."

These are powerful words from a gifted orator, delivered at a time when we need them most.

Compare these words to the self-aggrandizing comments from the Wasilla Wonder Woman, whose "blood libel" comment is drawing near-universal condemnation.

The Ultimate Insult

Politico reports:

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) turned down an offer by President Barack Obama to travel on Air Force One to Arizona for a memorial service on behalf of the victims of Saturday’s shooting, a decision that has upset some Democrats.

Boehner is instead scheduled to attend a reception on Wednesday night on behalf of Maria Cino, a former top House GOP aide who is seeking the Republican National Committee chairmanship. Boehner is backing Cino’s challenge to current RNC Chairman Michael Steele.

Well, I guess we know the Speaker's priorities

Doomsqual's influence???

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dudeless  Today 11:14 AM
Intertube I am going to register a complaint as you have threatened me. Remember this is not to be a personal attack or advocate that you would like my head removed. Hopefully your post will be removed and you will not be emotional in the future. I think my comments are very timely regarding your behavior and comments in light of the tragedy in Tucson.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/01/12/1503120/early-bipartisanship-shows-in.html#disqus_thread#ixzz1ArFl1MUH

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Examples of vitriol and hate

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Making sure this compilation doesn't disappear.....
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troll_whacker  22 minutes ago
Want examples of vitriol and hate? Here ya go:

-- July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.

-- October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.

-- December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals -- the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" -- threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.

-- December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

-- January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

-- February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

-- April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

-- April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.

-- May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

-- June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/01/12/1503495/palin-journalists-incite-hatred.html#disqus_thread#ixzz1Ar7t3rTX

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So bad it's not even wrong V3.0

I could not let this chunk of drivel slink away.

I believe it's time for America to alter its method of electing lawmakers. It should be quite obvious to the public that we have way too many so-called leaders on the public payroll. We are receiving far less equal representation.

I suggest each state be divided into four equal quarters and one congressional representative elected from each quarter. This would cut our present congressional membership to less than half.

On the Senate side, each state should be divided in half, either north and south or east and west, which every suits the best representation of the state, with one senator elected from each half the state.

This idea will never get off the ground, but by electing our lawmakers under this method, we would receive a much more equal and honest representation from all states and we would save millions of tax dollars.

At present, the federal government gives each lawmaker $1 million per year to operate an office, plus their wages, which are way too high considering the quality of representation we are receiving.

With today’s technology in communication, our lawmakers in most cases have instant contact with their constituents — much different from when our Constitution was written and designed establishing the need for our current congressional representatives based on population and relying on the Pony Express for communication.

The idea would, with a little tweaking, work well for electing our state representatives also. Let’s add term limits to this idea, also.

DAN BEEDLE; Tumwater

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/01/12/1503157/limit-the-number-of-lawmakers.html#ixzz1AqCCbdz9

Teabagging lunacy complete with grammar by Caribou Barbie.

Sarah skulks out of the shadows.....

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin has posted a nearly eight-minute video on her Facebook page condemning those who blame political rhetoric for the Arizona shooting that gravely wounded U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords
Last spring, Palin targeted Giffords' district as one of 20 that should be taken back. Palin has been criticized for marking each district with the cross hairs of a gun sight.
In the video posted Wednesday, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate said vigorous debates are a cherished tradition. But she said after the election, both sides find common ground, even though they disagree.
But Palin said that especially as a tragedy unfolds, journalists and pundits should not manufacture what she called a "blood libel" that incites hatred and violence.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/01/12/1503495/palin-journalists-incite-hatred.html#ixzz1ApTb1HBy

Palin has never participated in a vigorous debate in her life.  Hell, she couldn't handle a conversation with an Alaskan teacher without being condescending - and making sure it was on video.

  The closest thing was her debate with Biden to which she avoided questions and went off on talking point binges, as well as quippy crap like "say it ain't so, Joe" (remember her asking "can I call you Joe?" during the greeting?)

As the pastor said - the chickens came home to roost.

Tuesday, January 11, 2011

According to my clandestine informants in the newspaper business.....

You learn something every day.

Today, I had coffee and a great discussion with a print media executive (you have a few of those clinging to your aura after 20 years of that business).  Through this conversation and another conversation with a newspaper moderator, I found out the scoop on comments moderation.

The name of the game is personal responsiblity!  Can you imagine that?

Newspapers cannot afford to have someone watching every thread 24/7, and if they did, they'd become the liable party to every comment.....so........they depend on reader reports for the action they take.

Now, as we witness on a daily basis, there are certain people that are just there to raise hell and then, in turn, blame it on someone else.  Hell, they'll make up something if they can't find something real to mess with.  So it's up to you, as a reader, to moderate and report.  Obviously that gets out of hand, as we witnessed last year, which became the new beginning for ThurstonBlog.  All newspapers are talking about this and many are opting out of the comments business.

I left the meeting with an entirely new outlook and realized that I make the choice to participate on newpaper comment threads.  I can also make the choice to refrain.

I have chosen to not participate on The Olympian because it's not worth the trouble.  Although I've got a stalker following me like a toilet paper trail when I participate on The News Tribune, I can choose to ignore.  I can also choose to assist the newspaper staff on their moderation needs and help preserve the right for all to participate when they can play like good boys and girls.  The newspaper appreciates that.

My new newspaper friend appeared almost envious that we have a members only system on ThurstonBlog.  I can imagine.  The Olympian ends up having to deal with all the whining from those who would not be welcome here.  I'm sure my friend feels the same pain.

Fox anchors told to "tone it down"

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Thanks to "Rand" who just posted this link (http://www.theolympian.com/2011/01/08/1499138/congressional-officials-say-congresswoman.html#ixzz1AlUukahM)

Ailes Tells Fox Anchors to ‘Tone it Down’

Roger Ailes, the president of Fox News, on Monday embraced the idea of a more civil public discourse in the wake of the shootings in Arizona.
In an interview with the hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons, which was posted on his Web site, Mr. Ailes said that his network would try to cool the heated rhetoric.
“I told all of our guys, shut up, tone it down, make your argument intellectually,” Mr. Ailes said. “You don’t have to do it with bombast. I hope the other side does that.”
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Strange......and wonderful

As most of you know, I monitor the stats for ThurstonBlog.  Therefore a couple of things worth mention:

1.  Thanks to "Everday Olympia" for their mention.  We've had some nice traffic referred from your site.

2.  For some unknown reason, for the past two days, there have been close to a half dozen page views to each of two blogs from several months ago.  Said blogs were parodies of the moderator (former???) of The Olympian, at least at the time of publication.  Something tells me that someone is up to something.

This might be a good time for a refresher on use of quotes and images of people on ThurstonBlog. 

If anyone decides to use a quote from a media, please identify said media.  I'm not worried about lawsuits, it's just professional courtesy.

Imagery and pictures - If you lift a picture from a media, you should also ID said media.  Any imagery should always ID the individual correctly.  For instance, if you want to do a parody on me, identify me as me and make sure that the photo you use is either credited, or in some cases permission granted. (The Chronicle in Centralia is a real stickler about their photos being used for anything.  I requested permission of a photo of me from a feature story and was turned down.  I had to take a picture of their tabloid for reproduction - as was OK'd by the editor).

Further on imagery - please don't use a picture from the media and attempt to mislead readers as to who it is.  The parodies mentioned above identified the person correctly, and went on to critique their work.  This is acceptable.  To use someone's picture and attempt to represent them as someone else, would be inappropriate, not to mention a possible attempt to attach quotes that they never made.  ALWAYS made sure that you don't lift art from any site that might be proprietary - logos, etc, without permission from the author or organization.  For instance, Big Brothers Big Sisters reserves the right for their logo to be only used with permission or by designated supporters.  This is their protection from being misrepresented.

I'm sure I'll find out soon enough who has the bee in their bonnet.  Meanwhile, it provides for a great refresher opportunity.