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Saturday, February 13, 2016

Winner or loser? It will only count until the election.

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COMMENTS: 
*  ... These two old coots are poor examples of candidates for the American presidency to begin with. Trying to figure out who won a senior citizen debate is theater. Nothing real here just keep moving along.
   *  I resent your singling out older people. There is many a young person who seems to think that the Republicans are the way to go. Great stand up comedians in the White House.
*  One of the most hilarious aspects of this election has been the republicans who think it's going to be impossible for Hillary to be elected... when it's always been very probable.  No matter how much they attack and demonize her (the game the played on Obama)... no matter how stupid their BS attack and hack agenda becomes...  Hillary is STILL the most likely candidate to make it all the way to the presidency.  Bernie would be better for the nation... but Hillary is still significantly better than putting another warmongering profit-obsessed republican into the presidency with a republican controlled congress...  ... the US has yet to completely recover from (and almost didn't survive) the last time we had a republican congress with a republican president.
*  ... When it comes to your "corporate owners..." the republicans are second to none. They're First Second and Third... all by themselves.  If you don't like Hillary... don't vote for her. But anybody who hates corporate owners and votes republican is worse than a hypocrite.
*  The GOP will harvest what they have sown---and that is nonstop hate and prejudice. The elections are over---we have a woman president. Now the conservatives can go apoplectic take their guns and head to the streets in irrational anger.
*  What does "winning" or "loosing" mean? The purpose of these debate forums is to compare and contrast points of view - to see what each candidate advocates.
    *  Americans like to turn everything into a team sports game. That's the only way they can understand things.
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It Was Clinton's Best Debate, but Big Loser Wasn't Bernie
Henry Kissinger came under merciless attack from Bernie Sanders
By Rob Quinn, February 12, 2016

After Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders faced off in the first Democratic debate since Sanders' big win in New Hampshire, critics agreed there was one big loser: Henry Kissinger, who came under merciless attack from Bernie Sanders. "I'm proud to say that Henry Kissinger is not my friend," Sanders told Clinton. Here's what people had to say about the candidates' performances:
  • "This was Clinton's best debate of the election," decides Chris Cilliza at the Washington Post. She was "in total control all night" and scored plenty of points against Sanders, he writes, while Sanders stumbled despite an improved command of foreign policy—and will probably regret claiming that he will be better on race relations than President Obama.
  • Clinton didn't score any home runs but she still won, according to Matthew Yglesias at Vox. Nothing happened that would cause Clinton supporters to think twice, he writes, while voters getting a first look at Sanders would not have been impressed: The candidate turned in a "dangerously complacent debate performance" and failed to assuage "doubts about his electability" or add anything new to his critique of Clinton.
  • Scot Lehigh at the Boston Globe also calls the debate for Clinton. She came out on top by "presenting herself as a deeply knowledgeable candidate whose progressive stands are tempered by real-world practicality," he writes. This was the case in her attacks on Sanders' plan for a single-payer health care system, where Clinton stressed that the "focus should be on expanding coverage and care to those who still lack it, rather than starting from scratch and overhauling the entirety of the system."
  • Both candidates "performed well initially in talking about systemic racism and reforming the criminal justice system," but the "calm, cool, and collected" Clinton prevailed, writes Lucia Graves at the Guardian. Sanders, she writes, "was oddly on the defensive despite what has been momentum in his favor, starting out the night more combative than Clinton and wasting his time on petty one-liners."
Click for some of the debate's best lines.
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