"... Mr. Trump said, ''I really still don't know that there were illegal aliens.'" Oh, sure you did, Donald-- you can't sweep this under a rug.

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So, did or did he not know?  Here is the 1990 article about it.
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Trump Says He Didn't Know He Employed Illegal Aliens
By Dean Baquet, July 13, 1990

Donald J. Trump took the witness stand yesterday to deny seven-year-old charges that he knowingly used 200 undocumented workers to demolish the old Bonwit Teller building to make way for Trump Tower, the glittering centerpiece of his real-estate empire.

Testifying in a case that has survived years of legal challenges, Mr. Trump said he did not know the workers were undocumented and that the demolition in the summer of 1980 was delegated to a contractor, Kaszycki & Sons Contractors, which did all the hiring.

The lawsuit, by some members of Housewreckers Local 95, charges that Mr. Trump, desperate to meet deadlines on a vast project whose intricate financing was partly dependent upon them, overlooked the use of undocumented Polish immigrants, who allegedly worked round-the-clock and even slept at the site.

The lawsuit, being heard in United States District Court in Manhattan, pits Mr. Trump's word against those of union members and a labor consultant turned F.B.I. informant who claims he was a close Trump adviser.

Threats of Deportation Alleged

The union members, led by a retired demolition worker, Harry Diduck, charge that by using undocumented workers Mr. Trump avoided paying their pension fund. They say he should now pay $1 million, including interest.

They also contend that Kaszycki & Sons never paid the workers all they were owed, and that Trump subordinates threatened deportation when they tried to collect.

Mr. Trump was cool and confident in a case that comes to court just after he faced severe cash shortages in his real-estate and casino empire. He said he rarely visited the demolition site and knew little about its details.

But Daniel J. Sullivan, a labor consultant and sometime informant for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, testified that he advised Mr. Trump on the demolition and that the developer knew about the undocumented workers.

'I Think You Are Nuts'

By Mr. Sullivan's account, Mr. Trump called in a panic in the summer of 1980 and told him that the workers were slowing his project because of payment problems, and that they were even threatening to hang the Trump employee monitoring the demolition.

When Mr. Trump told him of the undocumented workers, Mr. Sullivan said he responded: ''I think you are nuts. You are here negotiating a lease in Atlantic City for a casino license and you are telling me you have got illegal employees on the job.''

Mr. Trump testified that Kaszycki & Sons fell behind, and that he only vaguely recalled complaints of payment problems. He said he did not remember threats against an employee.

He also said that Mr. Sullivan was a peripheral adviser.

Using the Name John Baron

Asked whether he knew about undocumented workers, Mr. Trump said, ''I really still don't know that there were illegal aliens.''

In earlier testimony to show the Trump organization knew about the undocumented workers, John Szabo, an immigration lawyer who represented them, said someone who said his name was Mr. Baron telephoned on behalf of the Trump organization in 1980 and threatened to sue him if he did not drop the workers' claims of back payments.

Mr. Trump acknowledged yesterday that he and one of his executives have used the name John Baron in some of their business dealings. He did not explain. And he was not asked about Mr. Szabo's allegation.

Mr. Szabo said his clients told him that to complete the demolition, they worked seven days a week, 12 hours a day. During a transit strike, some of them walked from the Greenpoint section of Brooklyn to the Fifth Avenue job site, he said. Many of them were never paid all that was owed them, he said.

A Tight Deadline and Concern

Mr. Trump acknowledged that his deadline was tight, and that he became greatly concerned when Kaszycki & Sons fell behind. He said that he considered pulling them off the job, but realized it would cost him months. So he decided to put more money into their contract so they would have enough to move faster.

Mr. Sullivan, who testified on July 6, said that meeting deadlines was crucial for Mr. Trump to keep the tax abatements that he and his partners received on Trump Tower.

Mr. Trump's lawyers have sought to portray Mr. Sullivan as a hanger-on who has served jail time for income-tax evasion.

Mr. Sullivan testified that he has provided the F.B.I. with information about more than 100 people, including ranking labor union officials involved in activity alleged to be corrupt.

Yesterday, Mr. Trump said Mr. Sullivan may have had a minor role in advising him on Trump Tower, but that Mr. Sullivan was ''a man who constantly tried to ingratiate himself.''
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