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Aside from the crappy advance notice, what do you think of the new comments forum on The Olympian?

I like the format and the ability to direct an answer to a comment without copying and pasting it, but the comment can get buried. Look at chronline.com's "BUZZ" for a great format and the ability to direct to a comment, but the posting sequence continues chronologically.

I'm enjoying that "likes" (formerly recommend) cannot be done for you own post. Sloboda, ssuron67 and you know who must be going absolutely batshit about that.


Whattaya think?

Beck lies (I know, it's not news)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

Blatent self promotion

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Welcome to Disqus

The Olympian switched on line baby sitters this morning without notice. A short announcement of the change and why it was made would be nice but I guess transparency the Olympian is forever editorializing on stops at their door.

Maybe it's me, but when I tried to log on I was told my password didn't work. Interesting seeing how I already have a Disqus account. When I attempted to use that password to access my account I was told that password was incorrect. So I thought, "screw that, I'll create a new account" but the Disqus window would not scroll up to allow me to finish the process.

Yannow, I'm about done with the on-line Olympian. I gave up on the printed edition years ago. In the near future I'll be scanning the stories without commenting and thus creating the additional hits. Hear that George? Your paper is so consistently user unfriendly a media hungry and politically active downtown resident is on the verge of no longer using your product. Even for free. How in the hell did you manage that?

I must have missed this when it was originally published....

...as apparently did everyone else, as there are no comments, but what a well written (and truthful) commentary...

http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/08/1342420/commentary-the-unconscious-of.html#storylink=mirelated

Stewart and Colbert on Beck's "Restoring Honor" march

http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2010/tv-news/stewart-colberts-one-two-punch-to-glenn-becks-828-march/?cmpid=FCST_tvnews [Videos available at this link]

Stewart, Colbert Stomp On Glenn Beck’s Lincoln Memorial March

Both ‘The Daily Show’ and ‘The Colbert Report’ are going to be off next week, so they both wanted to make sure they got some shots in on Glenn Beck’s peculiar and vague August 28 “Restoring Honor” march at the Lincoln Memorial, which happens to be taking place exactly when and where Martin Luther King Jr. gave his “I Have A Dream” speech.

“Wow, so Glenn Beck didn’t realize that was an important day in African-American history? I find that… totally plausible,” Jon Stewart riffed. “But where some people see insensitivity, Glenn Beck sees… an ‘insensitunity,” he added, about Beck insisting his followers were going to “reclaim the civil rights movement.”

Stewart then played a montage of Beck angrily decrying the government telling people what to do, contrasting it with another montage of Beck telling people what to do.

“So you’re mad at the government for telling us what to do because that’s your job?” he asked, and then moved towards a side-by-side comparison of Beck’s ‘Beck University’ segments and VH-1’s ‘Tool Academy.’

Stephen Colbert, on the other hand, opened his show by saying “Tonight! Glenn Beck re-founds America. I assume our new constitution will be written in chalk!”

After playing clips of Beck implying that he might get assassinated for trying to put on this march, as well as comparing himself to King, Gandhi, Howard Beale and even Jesus, Colbert shared an incredulous realization: “Glenn’s not just a talk show host. He’s the Mighty Morphin Power Martyr! He’s the savior! The one foretold! Soon, Glenn will be appearing in America’s grilled cheese sandwiches, instead of the current arrangement where grilled cheese sandwiches appear inside Glenn!”

Insincere bigotry

So, are our local bigots sincere or insincere?

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http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2010/08/insincere-bigotry.html

Aug 13, 2010

Insincere bigotry

The Liar Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, appeared on CBS' Face the Nation on Sunday morning.

I refer to the Liar Tony Perkins as "the Liar Tony Perkins" because the Liar Tony Perkins lies. A lot. He lies professionally in order to convince the fearfully credulous to send him more money.

And that, of course, is what the Liar Tony Perkins was doing Sunday morning on Face the Nation. He was lying.

The delicious thing on this particular Sunday morning -- unlike the Sunday mornings on which the Liar Tony Perkins is, inexplicably, allowed to attend church as though a member in good standing -- he was called on it.

David Boies didn't just accuse the Liar Tony Perkins of lying, he pointed out that the lies of the Liar Tony Perkins had been laughed out of court. (Steve Benen provides a transcript, John Cole the video http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/08/08/lies-lies-lies-yeah/). Here is what Boies said as the Liar Tony Perkins blinked and squinted and shook his head:

“It's easy to sit around and debate and throw around opinions -- appeal to people's fear and prejudice, cite studies that either don't exist or don't say what you say they do. In a court of law you've got to come in and you've got to support those opinions. You've got to stand up under oath and cross-examination. And what we saw at trial is that it's very easy for the people who want to deprive gay and lesbian citizens the right to vote, to make all sorts of statements in campaign literature or in debates where they can't be cross-examined.

But when they come into court and they have to support those opinions and they have to defend those opinions under oath and cross-examination, those opinions just melt away. And that's what happened here. There simply wasn't any evidence. There weren't any of those studies. There weren't any empirical studies. That's just made up. That's junk science.

... A witness stand is a lonely place to lie. And when you come into court, you can't do that. And that's what we proved. We put fear and prejudice on trial, and fear and prejudice lost.”

In response, the Liar Tony Perkins, unable to support his assertions because they were not true, simply reasserted them. To any reasonable observer, this was not credible and the Liar Tony Perkins was exposed, yet again, as the Liar Tony Perkins.

But reasonable observers are not the Liar Tony Perkins' target audience. "You can fool some of the people all of the time ..." Abraham Lincoln said, and the Liar Tony Perkins never stuck around to hear the rest. He had found his calling.

There's an interesting moral distinction to be examined here and I'm still struggling to figure out whether it matters or how it matters if it does.

The lies of the Liar Tony Perkins are hateful and harmful. His lies have victims. Two sets of victims, actually.

First there are the direct victims -- the people about whom the Liar Tony Perkins is lying. Quite often, those direct victims are homosexuals, whom the Liar Tony Perkins accuses of all manner of nastiness. These lies are hurtful -- not just because they create a din of incessant harassment, but because they alter the cultural environment in which GLBT persons must live. The Liar Tony Perkins is, intentionally, creating a hostile environment for our GLBT neighbors. That hostility can become tangible -- hindering the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of those neighbors, restricting their freedoms, their ability to make a living, to find housing, to pursue relationships, to live unmolested. This hostility and harassment can have a particularly forceful impact on young people, harming self-esteem, identity, health and happiness and leading, in extreme but by no means rare cases, to a host of problems including suicide. The unending hostility sown by the lies of the Liar Tony Perkins can also inspire actual violence, leading to physical injury to the neighbors his lies are slandering.

So that's bad.

The second set of victims, the indirect victims of the Liar Tony Perkins' lies, are those naive or foolish or fearful enough to believe him. These victims are doubly victimized. First they suffer financially by responding to the Liar Tony Perkins' incessant appeals for contributions. Collecting money under the pretext that it will provide imaginary protection from an imaginary threat is, of course, fraud. And the victims of this fraud are being deprived of their hard-earned money.

But these believers in the Liar Tony Perkins are also victims in a second, more pernicious way. Their character is being corroded and poisoned by the steady diet of lies fed to them by the Liar Tony Perkins. Their capacity for love, for tolerance, magnanimity, citizenship, mutuality, honor, kindness, responsibility, hope, hospitality, generosity and neighborliness is being diminished. When you are deceived into believing hateful and stupid things you become yourself more hateful and stupid. This is not good for you.

Now, as David Boies pointed out, it is clear that the Liar Tony Perkins is lying. When he cites "numerous studies" showing that homosexuals are a danger to children and a menace to society we know that he is familiar with those studies and that therefore he knows that they do not say what he says they say or show what he says they show. Some of the studies do not exist at all. The Liar Tony Perkins simply made them up (that's the "research" part of "Family Research Council"). Presumably, therefore, he knows he made them up.

So we know he's lying. It may be that he has chosen to tell this particular set of profitably toxic lies because he dislikes his direct victims and enjoys harming them. It may be, in other words, that the Liar Tony Perkins is a bigot telling lies to spread that bigotry.

But it's also altogether possible that the Liar Tony Perkins doesn't actually harbor any personal dislike for the GLBT neighbors about whom he is telling such hateful, absurd lies. It may be that these neighbors are simply an especially profitable target of convenience.

For a demagogue in search of a subject for his demagoguery, our GLBT neighbors must seem an easy target. They are in the minority, and they are different from the majority, and therefore they are doubly vulnerable. Plus, to some devoutly religious believers -- the pool from which the Liar Tony Perkins fishes for fearful, foolish donors -- GLBT persons are also viewed as sinners, and that can be exploited to provide pseudo-spiritual cover for all manner of bigotry and slander.

We should note here that this religious cover is a sham, a non-sequitur. It does not follow. One cannot logically proceed from the belief that same-gender sex is a sin to the conclusion that homosexuals ought therefore to be denied full access to civil rights.

Many of the conservative Baptists among whom I grew up believe that dancing is a sin. I have never heard any of them suggest that weddings are invalid if there is dancing at the reception. Nor did any of them argue that professional dancers ought to be relegated to second-class citizenship -- forbidden to marry, to adopt children, to serve openly in the military. They didn't argue such things because it wouldn't have made sense. The leap from "dancing is a sin" to "dancers are subhuman and should not have rights" is illogical and it's bad theology by their own standards. The belief in a religious prohibition against homosexuality can be exploited by demagogues to produce and nurture bigotry among those who are prone to bigotry, but that religious prohibition is not, in itself, the cause or the source of that bigotry.

The question I am puzzling over here is does it matter whether or not the Liar Tony Perkins is, himself, a sincere bigot? Is there any sense in drawing a distinction between an actual bigot promoting and profiting from a bigotry he truly believes and a con-artist demagogue performing the exact same actions and saying the exact same things despite not actually believing the bigoted lies he's selling?

The net effect on others is the same in either case. Both make the world a crueler, more brutal, less hospitable place. Both increase the aggregate stupidity, diminish freedom, manufacture unhappiness and produce tangible harm for their direct and indirect victims. We could do nicely without either one.

So from the perspective of the rest of the world, I don't think it matters at all whether a demagogue promoting bigotry is sincere or insincere. But for the demagogue himself I think it does matter. I think it matters for -- for lack of a better word -- his soul.

The soul of a sincere bigot is a sad, shriveled, broken thing in need of what all such broken souls require -- repentance, forgiveness and liberation. The sincere bigot requires the liberation that comes from repentance and forgiveness because he -- like all of his followers -- is a prisoner of the lies he is spreading. He is deceived, but the truth could set him free.

The insincere demagogue is less a prisoner than a jailer. Or maybe a corrupt trusty. He has the keys to his own cell door but chooses not to leave so long as he can profit from inducing others to accept the bondage he's selling. He knows the truth, but he refuses to allow it to set him free. He has, willingly, exchanged his soul for money.

Jesus himself said that was always an option. "What profit is it," Jesus asked, "if you gain the whole world and lose your soul?"

"What profit?" the insincere bigot says. "You just said you gain the whole world. There's your profit right there."

So for the rest of us, it probably doesn't make any difference whether or not the Liar Tony Perkins or the Liar Glenn Beck or the big, fat freaking Liar Rush Limbaugh are sincere in their bigotry or not. I don't think any of them is sincere. And I think, for each of them individually, that makes matters much, much worse than if they were.

Posted by Fred Clark on Aug 13, 2010 at 05:56 PM

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After years hiding.....

The same-sex marriage debate is producing some interesting consequences - Ken Melhman, former chair of the Republican National Committee and leader of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign, has come out as gay and as a supporter of same-sex marriage in an interview with the Atlantic.

Ken Mehlman, former head of the Republican National Committee. (Getty Images)
In an interview with Politico, Mehlman said one reason for his disclosure is that leading Republican attorney Ted Olson urged him to do what he could to further the cause, including appearing at a fund-raiser next month for Olson's American Foundation for Equal Rights, which is challenging California's Prop. 8.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hottopics/detail?entry_id=70943&tsp=1#ixzz0xxCT3qps

The best part of Murkowski/Miller primary

It's like watching a snake bite its own ass.

Voting out Murkowski takes away 2 terms of seniority.

It's fun watching Sarah Palin shit on her own party.

From the Intertubes

Before it's deleted

JoseNosay wrote on 08/26/2010 06:29:15 PM:
" glenn wrote on 08/26/2010 05:27:49 PM: "I am deeply remorseful" - OH NO YOU'RE NOT! Maybe you'll meet your husband in jail....Big Bertha the Biker!"

Another Conservative with fantasies of jail rape. I though we got over this when TJ Johnson left the front page.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/26/1348684/olympia-woman-gets-month-in-jail.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=20070#Comments_Container#ixzz0xlWv9al0

Oil Companies pandering

Has anyone seen the latest oil companies ad featuring several people, both black and white, with thick southern drawls, letting us know that this isn't the time to tax oil producers (as if there ever IS a time....)?

They bought Keith Olberman's show last night, so you know they are trying to send a message to progressives.

Good luck, Oil Producers. Your spokespeople lacked depth of information and sounded stupid.

I don't think you'll reach your target audience on MSNBC. The non-thinking crowd don't get their broadcast in many cable franchises.

Today's stupidity

In today's Olympian, we have a story about a GI that held his 4 year old under water because she wouldn't say her alphabet.

He was charged with 3rd degree assault - the same charge as the TESC kid that didn't make contact with a cop.

As can be expected, the low information voters say "it's only one soldier", but if a TESC student does something wrong it's "close the school.

Oh Mac, so deserving of a bullet in the head

The_Great_Anon wrote on 08/26/2010 09:54:24 AM:

Mac_Woods wrote on 08/26/2010 08:17:09 AM:

"Isn't global warming like number 8 on most people's top 10 things they care about? The majority of thinking people know it's a sham"

Ah, so scientific fact is now a matter of opinion polls run by FAUX News. Dear God, we are all doomed.

From his Booze addled brain

glenn wrote on 08/26/2010 07:17:02 AM:

I guess I'm going to vote NO on the IT funding.

Uh, glenn, the election was last week. August 17th to be exact.

And this asshole breathes my air...

selective hearing, not deaf, but definitely dumb

Logic_L_Question wrote on 08/25/2010 04:34:56 PM:
" LaserBeam wrote on 08/25/2010 02:05:19 PM:
Intertubes wrote on 08/25/2010 11:39:52 AM:Aren't gun toters protecting their neighbors anymore?

I will step up and protect my neighbors from the violent felon, Margaret Belknap should the need arise."

That's a threat, in case you needed explanation.


RedForeman wrote on 08/25/2010 04:36:16 PM: Doesn't sound like a threat to me.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/25/1346370/protester-found-guilty-of-assault.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=7452828#Comments_Container#ixzz0xfGCqKWz

Evergreen Student Trial

The Souie Princess' blog is all over the Evergreen kid that "assaulted" the cop. Mind you the prosecutor had to admit that the cop had not been hit, but an attempt is an assault.

With that thought in mind, what happened to Charles Alan Wilson who threatened to kill Patty Murray? I can't find a thing about a trial. He had a hearing and was RELEASED ON BOND!!!

Everytime some kid poops at Evergreen the Right Wing Looness comes unglued, but you'll not find one word about a lunatic that threatens the life of a US Senator - unless said Senator is Republican, and they had damned well better not be a moderate either.

WTF???????

norealid wrote on 08/24/2010 07:50:43 PM:
SustantivoDeThurston wrote on 08/24/2010 07:42:30 PM: Okay so you don't deny being LARRY?

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/24/1346133/woman-convicted-on-one-count-in.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=2894453#Comments_Container#ixzz0xaOJe6Oz

No, if I was going to cloak myself, asshole, I'd slightly change my style of delivery and sucker you in as I did when I was "xxxxxxxxxx". Now THAT was fun!

Consensus time

http://www.google.com/support/blogger/bin/answer.py?answer=156829

Whattaya think?

Don't Honk At Old People

Let me get this straight..we're in Iraq defending our "freedom"????

Porn offers window into Iraq's chaotic politics


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100823/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq_porn_and_politics

Nice to know we spent 7 years, several billion dollars, and thousands of lives so the people of Iraq could be free to view porn!

Go us!

Before this disappears...

I wonder if Kroger also sees monsters under the bed or in the closet?

Bwahahahahaha.......... [Would we know "Kroger" under a bunch of pseudonyms??]

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Kroger wrote on 08/22/2010 06:18:09 PM:

I see Larry is back to his old (and I mean old) BS. Get a life Larry. You have been clogging the que for to long.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/22/1343733/supporters-opponents-of-nyc-mosque.html?commentSort=TimeStampAscending&pageNum=7&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container#ixzz0xOE8jRLe

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Poor, poor persecuted M_W

How can a member of the majority be such a victim?

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Mac_Woods wrote on 08/22/2010 02:19:25 PM:

Intertubes wrote on 08/22/2010 01:39:06 PM:
Shameful bigotry. Now every new mosque in America is going to be put through a "sensetivity" test. We aspire to this?

Good point. Now they know what it's like to be Christian

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/22/1343733/supporters-opponents-of-nyc-mosque.html?commentSort=TimeStampAscending&pageNum=2&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container#ixzz0xO8MHfIM

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Elioron caught it, too:

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Elioron wrote on 08/22/2010 02:35:41 PM:

Mac_Woods wrote on 08/22/2010 02:19:25 PM: "Good point. Now they know what it's like to be Christian"

Silly Mac! Don't you know that Christians are the majority in this country? They can't experience ridicule or discrimination! Besides, all Christians are conservative nutjobs, right?

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/22/1343733/supporters-opponents-of-nyc-mosque.html?commentSort=TimeStampAscending&pageNum=3&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container#ixzz0xOAHsyCd

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Did any one notice?

"ThurstonBLauger" was deleted as a registered participant on The Olympian.

No violations.

Before it's deleted

ThirstyLager wrote on 08/22/2010 09:35:49 AM:
I'd love to see glenn, or anyone like him, do without services from the State for a period of time.

This editorial is dependent on the lack of information that the general public has about the labor agreement between the State and its workers. Imagine a company that broke five unions at the Tacoma News Tribune to be the one to step up in support of organized labor of any kind.

State employees took hits in 2010 on medical care - 150% increases in copays and new "deductibles" for "day surgery" (did you know an injection that takes 5 minutes is a day surgery?)

Regardless of what the "national average" is, these are benefits that were negotiated in good faith, in lieu of salaries, thus there is no reason for the labor unit to let them go, regardless of what a union busting newspaper group says.

Of course, maybe the thousands of State workers could adjust their cost of living by cutting expenses - starting with newspaper subscriptions.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/22/1343459/this-is-not-the-time-for-state.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=2179671#Comments_Container#ixzz0xLyXQttN

Yes, cedar, you should never leave!

cedar wrote on 08/21/2010 08:52:10 PM:

I leave this forum for most of the day, come back, and find that the right wing has rewritten history to conform to their delusions. Perhaps I should never leave.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/21/1342681/republicans-are-to-blame.html?commentSort=TimeStampAscending&pageNum=8&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container#ixzz0xKNoxZ2V

Pitts finds something to like about Mike Huckabee

The fresh breath of conservative air that's Mike Huckabee By Leonard Pitts, Jr.

... So much of what purports to be political discourse these days is instead this primal scream of self-righteousness and outrage. So much of it seems predicated upon the presumption that ideology is identity and reason, treason. ...

... Huckabee seems to have the novel idea that it’s more important to find answers than win arguments, more important to speak conscience than parrot talking points. ...

"So, what's the difference?"

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?

Posted by Judy Hauser

Now that U.S. combat troops have left Iraq, this might be the perfect moment for our favorite Texas Air National Guard alumnus to dig out that flight suit and get his Top Gun groove back on.

President Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech aboard an aircraft carrier on May 1, 2003, may have been seven years too soon, but how was he to know that the arms of Iraqis wouldn't be welcoming? And what part of "Operation Iraqi Freedom" didn't those ungrateful people understand? Did they really think we charged into their country looking for weapons of mass destruction?

As our combat forces leave Iraq, I'd like to give credit where credit is due – not for getting us out of Iraq, but for getting us into Iraq.

Before we blew into Baghdad, a little known group led by Karl Rove, called the White House Iraq Group, met for the sole purpose of selling the impending invasion of Iraq to the American people – mostly by terrifying us.

Who can forget Condi Rice's brow-furrowed warnings of mushroom clouds, or Dick Cheney's aluminum-tubes clamor, or Donald Rumsfeld's "God-knows-what-else-could-be-transpiring-in-that-place" panic attacks?

Protests around the world were muted by Bush's browbeating reminders of terrorists and their plans to do us in. Protests here at home were met with shouts of anti-patriotism and a mocking of common sense. Verifiable intelligence was tossed aside for vague, forged documents, while seasoned intelligence officers were bypassed for a more agreeable ex-Iraqi politician with an axe to grind against Saddam.

We smoked into Bagdad on swagger, flimsy intelligence and vigilante dreams, not expecting an Iraqi resistance.

"Bring 'em on," Bush chided Iraqi insurgents, kicking up the insurgency and slapping bull's eyes on the backs of our soldiers. Fighting two wars not only stretched our military so thin it wouldn't cover leftovers from lunch, but with the help of poorly-timed Bush tax cuts for the rich, it turned a stunning budget surplus left by the Clinton administration into a raging deficit.

Where were tea party budget-pinching patriots then? Where were today's deficit-conscious Republicans when $9 billion of U.S. currency, shipped to the Coalition Provisional Authority and meant for Iraqi reconstruction, was lost and unaccounted for?

Now that our combat troops have left Iraq, a sovereign nation we invaded on a shady sale's pitch, some "patriots" will no doubt shrug it off as President Bush did when pressed by Diane Sawyer about never finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

"So, what's the difference?" he shrugged.

The difference is the 4,415 members of the U.S. military killed in Iraq would be living their lives today, and the nearly 32,000 of our wounded would be living without physical injuries or disabilities.

Another person thinks glenn is off the wagon (if he ever was on it)!

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rrrr wrote on 08/21/2010 09:11:13 AM:

rrrr, glenn, where'd you put your brains, if not in the compost heap? Clearly you left them somewhere as shown by your daily posts. You really shouldn't start drinking so early in the morning, it's not healthy.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/21/1342681/republicans-are-to-blame.html?commentSort=TimeStampAscending&pageNum=3&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container#ixzz0xKDqr7qG

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"Some people will believe anything": Horsey cartoon nails it again

Check it out:

Horsey cartoon: Some people will believe anything

Simon's Cat in 'The Box'

Many Republicans now say: Palin not fit to be GOP leader

Finally they're seeing what Democrats have been saying all along.

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The Palin Twitter Backlash

Black Republicans tell John Avlon that Sarah Palin's tweet in defense of Dr. Laura was ridiculous and indefensible—and that she may be "no longer fit to lead."

Sarah Palin’s post-VP nominee career has so far benefitted from bomb-throwing. The process follows a tight script—a crude, semi-calculated comment is shot into the middle of a political debate via Facebook or Twitter. It gains national attention. Liberals are outraged. Conservatives rush to her defense. Sarah Palin dominates a news cycle and becomes more beloved by her base.

But by unnecessarily rushing to the defense of Dr. Laura Schlessinger—after she dropped the N-bomb 11 times and told the caller “don’t marry outside of your race”—Sarah Palin might finally have gone too far and picked a fight she cannot win.

This is the sound of Sarah Palin jumping the shark in two tweets:

• Dr.Laura:don't retreat ... reload! (Steps aside bc her 1st Amend.rights ceased 2exist thx 2activists trying 2silence"isn't American,not fair")
• Dr.Laura=even more powerful & effective w/out the shackles, so watch out Constitutional obstructionists. And b thankful 4 her voice,America!

The few black conservative candidates, columnists, and media figures—who represent the GOP’s only hope for reclaiming the legacy of Lincoln and, with it, long-term demographic relevance—are not amused. They’re now saying what many in the GOP increasingly believe: Sarah Palin is not fit to be a serious leader of the Republican Party. ...

Now HERE'S a dedicated cat lover....

Missoula couple fly in search dog to find missing cat


http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_7c0fe5cc-ab4e-11df-ad9f-001cc4c002e0.html

I hope they find Ricky...

SCAM ALLERT!!!

A very convincing sounding call came in stating (in an automated voice) that they were the fraud division of my ATM / debit card and that it was deactivated. If I wanted to re-activate please press in the 16 digit #, which I did. They repeated the numbers back (all in an automated voice). They then asked for the 4 digit expiration date, at that point I realized it was a scam!

I called my bank, and they said it was definitely a scam. Please be aware!

Well, it's THEIR website

"johhnyfreedom" suggested that Yoda ask the people of Iraq if the US investment in the war was worth it.

"ThurstonBLauger" suggested that you ask the dead people that got a front row seat for 'Shock and Awe"

The Olympian deleted Thurston's comment.

This is reminiscent of not showing flag draped coffins.



YET.....here is the link from an advertisement on the same page:

http://holy-war.net/index/index2

Yes, kids, now YOU can play Holy War from the safety of your own computer!!!

Pure Genius

"Suze said - "America is in a very dangerous and sad state of affairs.If we don't use our freedom, we are going to lose our freedom"

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Now this quote was in reference to stopping a Mosque from being built. In order to use our freedom we must deny the freedom of other Americans.

Brilliance abounds.

Yoda recording for TomTom GPS - behind the scenes

I wonder how many of our "christian" freinds will condem this act...

http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/17/1338297/taliban-stone-afghan-couple-for.html#storylink=omni_popular

.....When the bible advocates the same thing....

RIP, wordsmith James Kilpatrick

Columnist, wordsmith James Kilpatrick dead at 89

I didn't care for his politics, but as a writer, Kilpatrick was unparalleled, and I always looked forward to his columns about the English language.

Dueling Banjos please

I couldn't let this pearl of wisdom slip away.

scooter wrote on 08/15/2010 03:48:00 AM:

McKinleyWeston: wake up little snoozy.barak has`nt seen nothin. hasn`t done nuthin. he be talkin out his hind end, because his mouth knows betta. So far, all talk, no walk..... liberal party thats where its at.....NOT.

More Protesting Fun

Just when you think you've seen it all.....

Jimmythestool wrote on 08/15/2010 05:59:57 PM:
It sure will be nice to see Peppermint Patty GONE!!! Your'e days are numbered snaggletooth!
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Your'e ?????????????

"tinydancer1" OR "tinymind"???

Another right wing ID has appeared on the scene-- "tinydancer1"..... however, I think the ID should be "tinymind"!!! See her six pieces of idiocy at http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/13/1335611/supreme-court-candidates-refusing.html

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tinydancer1 wrote on 08/15/2010 12:02:54 PM:

tinydancer1 wrote on 08/15/2010 12:15:16 PM:

tinydancer1 wrote on 08/15/2010 12:26:49 PM:

tinydancer1 wrote on 08/15/2010 12:31:48 PM:

tinydancer1 wrote on 08/15/2010 12:56:05 PM:

tinydancer1 wrote on 08/15/2010 01:31:57 PM:

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To quote her: I am the mother of the murdered child in the 06 add. [sic] If this is true, it's obvious that her grief has warped her views.

Sic 'em, PAX!

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PAX wrote on 08/14/2010 10:02:14 PM:

glenn lied "siderat and PAX think we deserve it"

glenn - have you EVER considered telling the truth instead of making up lies and baseless inflammatory accusations? If so, we haven't seen it on this forum. This is just another example of an outright lie. What a vile little person you must be to attack another in such a way. You have no class, no ethics, no morals, and very little sense of right and wrong. A very little man.

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PAX forgot something...... glenn mistreats animals, too!

It's baaaaaccccckkkkk in a new form

Now it's "LNDEPENDENTVOTER".........

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lndependentVoter wrote on 08/14/2010 09:56:23 PM:

@ClaudeBawls. 0bama never should have weighed in on this.

Of course they have every right to worship as they wish.
This is just as inappropriate as praying out loud in the street. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward."

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Thank you, whoever you are......

One of the ThurstonBlog readers (authors???) has created the moniker "Claude Bawls" (I believe I suggested Claude Balls for glenn) and the conspiracy is off and running.

Great spoof, whoever you are. I'm enjoying a nice little lurk and many laughs since I just got home from down south.

I'll be in Los Angeles on Monday and Tuesday. It should be interesting to see who I am when I'm there.

Red and glenn are as predictable as can be expected. Glad to see they keep reading ThurstonBlog, the place where you say the things you can't say on the other blog

More Rossi

I'm not sure when this was written because of course Rossi is now a candidate.

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Hall of Shame: Dino Rossi

Dino Rossi’s first campaign hire is former lobbyist for Enron – a move that puts him in the DSCC Hall of Shame.

With ethically challenged, perennial politician Dino Rossi all but certain to enter the U.S. Senate race any day now, Republican sources indicate that Rossi has turned to a former lobbyist for Enron to run his campaign. POLITICO is reporting that Rossi has settled on Pat Shortridge, a former lobbyist for Enron, to be the general consultant in his Senate race.

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Rossi blasts use of stimulus dollars on pot study

By RACHEL LA CORTE
Associated Press Writer
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OLYMPIA, Wash. —
A day after sending out a press release making pot jokes when referring to a Washington State University study on marijuana's effect on pain medication, Republican Dino Rossi's campaign insists he intended no disrespect.

On Thursday, Rossi released a statement focusing on the two-year project by psychology professor Michael Morgan, whose study involves injecting synthetic cannabinoids along with opiates in rats to see how to improve treatment for people with chronic pain. Cannabinoids are the active ingredients in marijuana.

Rossi criticized the $148,000 in federal stimulus dollars granted to Morgan last year, saying taxpayers "are tired of their money going up in smoke" and that instead of creating jobs, the money isn't "going to stimulate anything other than sales of Cheetos."

Spokeswoman Jennifer Morris said Friday that "no judgment was made on the validity of the research," though she refused to comment on the marijuana stereotypes used in the press release, including the headline "It's 5:00 Somewhere, But It's 4:20 At Washington State University." The term "420" is used by some as a reference to marijuana.

Medical marijuana is legal in Washington state, approved by voters by initiative in 1998.

Morris said that Rossi's criticism is of the $800 billion federal stimulus plan approved by national Democrats last year. Washington state was awarded about $8.6 billion for projects ranging from transportation to medical research and the Hanford Nuclear Reservation cleanup.

"There are a number of folks who are questioning what their tax dollars went to and where all those promised jobs are," Morris said in a statement.

Morgan said the grant allows him to continue work through the summer, when he normally wouldn't be paid, and also led to the hiring of students to help with the research that could help address costs associated with pain management.

"Essentially, what he's doing is trashing my career without any facts," said Morgan, who is doing his research at the Vancouver branch of WSU. "To have Rossi come in and mock my work, that's the part that riles me up."


Hey, Dino! Patty says "thanks a pantload"!

It's so tempting....

TheSaneOne wrote on 08/13/2010 07:46:43 PM:
Really Yoda? Is that why the Board voted on the Boycott with NO discussion from members and NO vote from members? Not exactly "fostering democracy" as they insist in the Mission Statement, are they? They only had the meeting last night after receiving hundreds of emails and phone calls. Otherwise, the Co-op Board was more than willing to unilaterally shove it down everyone's throat.

Actually Yoda I'm often ashamed of the hypocrisy that is Olympia.


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I SOOOO want to post my last offering...

So I get this in the mail today...

It's a bumper sticker from Equal Rights Washington..saying "I Do Support Marriage Equality"

Now while I fully support the idea, I'm afraid to stick it on my car for fear it will be vandalized...

(Sound familiar, R71 signers????)

And this deserves an update...

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EVERY post by the "insaine" one has been deleted.....

BWAHAHHAHHAHAHH!

Red's measure taken!

winemakermccrea is, of course, the proprietor of the new wine-tasting emporium....

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RedForeman wrote on 08/12/2010 12:06:27 PM:

Just what downtown Oly needs, another business that sells alcohol. A fancy wine bar is still just another bar.

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billy_joe wrote on 08/12/2010 04:27:51 PM:

A wine bar is NOT just another bar.

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RedForeman wrote on 08/12/2010 05:04:00 PM:

Yes, it is. And drunk is drunk, whether you're full of fancy wine or cheap rotgut.

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sidrat38 wrote on 08/12/2010 05:25:20 PM:

Fine, Red, then don't go there...

Don't foist your opinions on others, though

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winemakermccrea wrote on 08/12/2010 11:46:32 PM:

Fascinating dialogue. Me-thoughts that I was in a town where it "appears" that "love & peace" reside. It saddens me that it appears this shallow.

As for alcohol, you've picked your poison Red ... it's you. Take a look in the mirror. Why, it's pointing a finger at you.

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